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Lisp on the move: the lisp gardeners project
Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:05:28

O.k., the Reddit affair hasn't exactly been that good for the promotion of lisp to the outside world; high on the Reddit list today was a link to yet another negative article on the subject, this time by an O'Reilly editor. BUT internally it seems to have been a catalyst for positive change: Opposed to popular belief there are actually still people that get into lisp and like it but in concurrence with popular belief there are quite some things about Common Lisp that need improvement. In the Lisp newsgroup the self-described newbie Brad Beveridge came up with the plan to tie the newbies to the lisp grunt work in a similar fasion to the linux janitors project.

It's a win win situation: Lisp newbies learn lisp by fixing stuff, and the stuff gets fixed. Early on in the thread Peter Seibel said he was in and he seems to have adopted the project. He has set up a mailing list, offered to make a website for it, is prepared to couple newbies to veterans, has offered to review newbie code before sending them to those veterans, etc... A few days into the new mailing list with only a newsgroup announcement there have been about sixteen volunteers; mostly newbies (me included) but also some experienced types.

Right now there are several topics on the informal agenda. Amongst others: A one click starter box much like Seibels Lisp in a Box but with extended functionality, 'making asdf/-install ubiquitous', polish existing projects by adding documentation and by making them work across distributions, a polished cross-platform gui framework, a new all-encompassing lisp info site proposed by Marc Battyani. Interesting stuff. Thanks Reddit!

16 subscribers was a bit of a low guess i guess. When a day later i actually clicked on the subscribers list there were 123 of them.


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on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:19:21 kenny said:

The Reddit affair has been /great/ for Lisp promotion: there is no such thing as bad publicity.


on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:07:31 tieze said:

I'm not really sure about that one, but i hope you're right.


on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:45:11 jamato said:

Lisp, be it good or bad, can take a flying leap off of reddit and I'd wave goodbye. Enough with Lisp already.


on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 04:18:28 tieze said:

well it's mob rule on there isn't it. use your voice!


on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:23:31 adherent said:

well, the sites been buggy as, since its been redone, so its no great advertisment for python either


on Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:24:48 Doug said:

I'm opening a new site in a few weeks here that will eliminate the mob mentality of articles. I would certainly welcome any lispers that want to make it their home.

www.zifus.com


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